Chad Myers' Blog

# re: Framework thinking vs. Library thinking

I don't get it. What about framework thinking vs. library thinking? Is the idea that there might be a difference between the two so valuable that you don't need to spell it out with more words and an empty post is sufficient? Are we unworthy of you thoughts? Or is there a different channel to this information that only the ALT.NETerati knows about? ;) 12/3/2007 4:04 PM | Mike Moore

# re: Framework thinking vs. Library thinking

Chad,

Your preference?

Mike,

I think Chad was just trying to illustrate the conceptual differences between the two. IMHO he did an excellent job.

-Jon 12/3/2007 4:49 PM | Jon Scolamiero

# re: Framework thinking vs. Library thinking

@Mike: Oh dear, no nothing like that. I was just thinking about what Brad Wilson said on the altnetconf mailing list about people talking about Frameworks vs. Libraries and it got me thinking about a lot of the slides I see in various architecture and design presentations and they usually fall into one of those two types of images.

I'm not saying it's bad I'm not saying it's good. As I was whipping those out, I was thinking about the pros and cons of each.

I mostly wanted to put down the picture I saw in my head when I thought of each in the hopes it would spawn some sort of discussion on the merits and problems with each.

The first thing that comes to mind when I look at each is the relative SIZE of the 'Your Code Here' boxes. I didn't intend for that to happen, but now that I think about it, I suppose it's correct: With frameworks, you end up writing less code, but you're usually locked into the framework. With Libraries, you end up writing more code, but your options are more open. 12/3/2007 7:52 PM | Chad Myers

# re: Framework thinking vs. Library thinking

When I first visited this post this morning, neither of the images were showing. It was just an empty post; no content at all. But now I see the images, so I must be part of the club now. :)

Myself, I tend to lean towards libraries. Except for rails apps, then I'm perfectly fine using that framework. But I haven't found a .NET framework that I trust yet. Nothing has felt quite right... 12/4/2007 1:19 AM | Mike Moore

# re: Framework thinking vs. Library thinking

Chad,

I guess that answers my question too ;).

-Jon 12/4/2007 2:53 PM | Jon